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	<title>Comments on: I, for one, welcome our rat-brain Overlords</title>
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		<title>By: Kris Kane</title>
		<link>http://blog.kriskane.com/2008/08/13/i-for-one-welcome-our-rat-brain-overlords/comment-page-1/#comment-9727</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Kane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know who Pare is ;-). The only person I know who began training as a neuroscientist stopped about a third of the way through to become a photographer (specifically the kind of photographer who tours Europe with punk bands), though that shifted under his feet, too (he&#039;s now a photo editor of some kind with TMZ, which he hates vehemently).

I wonder if Dr. Whalley&#039;s been contacted by &quot;the military&quot; yet. I see this sort of thing being useful for a variety of applications, if they can tune it (and they apparently can). Feed these brain cells sonar and they can echolocate around a pen. Feed them infrared or microwave and maybe they can locate hidden enemy combatant units or mark (or detonate) mines. All kinds of ethical questions abound. If I was writing more science fiction, I&#039;d think about a story (though Philip K. Dick has already written a couple along those lines). As it is, I woke up this morning with the idea for a science fiction(ish) story about remote viewers being attached to marine reconnaissance units in some upcoming war in the Balkans. I may actually write it, though all I have is the idea (no major plot at all yet).

I&#039;m play all the time, since it&#039;s effectively free now (despite the viking bastards upping prices to cover their air fare bills). I probably shouldn&#039;t put this much &quot;sensitive&quot; information in a public forum, but we&#039;ve got … seven? (I&#039;ve lost count!) POSes and a couple of freighters (one of them a nomad). I spend most of my Mondays hauling fuel and T2 raw material back and forth. I still think the developers are amoral dickheads, but since the game can be played at a &quot;chess by mail&quot; pace a lot of the time (and since it&#039;s free), I keep my hand in. Good to hear from you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know who Pare is <img src='http://blog.kriskane.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . The only person I know who began training as a neuroscientist stopped about a third of the way through to become a photographer (specifically the kind of photographer who tours Europe with punk bands), though that shifted under his feet, too (he&#8217;s now a photo editor of some kind with TMZ, which he hates vehemently).</p>
<p>I wonder if Dr. Whalley&#8217;s been contacted by &#8220;the military&#8221; yet. I see this sort of thing being useful for a variety of applications, if they can tune it (and they apparently can). Feed these brain cells sonar and they can echolocate around a pen. Feed them infrared or microwave and maybe they can locate hidden enemy combatant units or mark (or detonate) mines. All kinds of ethical questions abound. If I was writing more science fiction, I&#8217;d think about a story (though Philip K. Dick has already written a couple along those lines). As it is, I woke up this morning with the idea for a science fiction(ish) story about remote viewers being attached to marine reconnaissance units in some upcoming war in the Balkans. I may actually write it, though all I have is the idea (no major plot at all yet).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m play all the time, since it&#8217;s effectively free now (despite the viking bastards upping prices to cover their air fare bills). I probably shouldn&#8217;t put this much &#8220;sensitive&#8221; information in a public forum, but we&#8217;ve got … seven? (I&#8217;ve lost count!) POSes and a couple of freighters (one of them a nomad). I spend most of my Mondays hauling fuel and T2 raw material back and forth. I still think the developers are amoral dickheads, but since the game can be played at a &#8220;chess by mail&#8221; pace a lot of the time (and since it&#8217;s free), I keep my hand in. Good to hear from you!</p>
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		<title>By: Pare</title>
		<link>http://blog.kriskane.com/2008/08/13/i-for-one-welcome-our-rat-brain-overlords/comment-page-1/#comment-9708</link>
		<dc:creator>Pare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Jaredh here, but I prefer my more real nick here.)

I just read that same article, via Boingboing, and yes, it creeped me out, too. Especially the video was pretty scary. 

Now, I do feel for the poor rats, but if this cures Alzheimer I feel it&#039;s worth it. Still creepy. Not that I find myself thinking if I chose the wrong career and if I could still change it...

I read an article about people trying to simulate a rat&#039;s neocortex in a computer a while ago. I&#039;ve lost the reference, but it got me thinking if we could use those simulations for some stuff - my first application idea was to use it to do signal separation from an audio signal, but I have no idea if that could be done. I should write an outline and try to use it as a basis for a PhD (if somebody wants to, go ahead - it&#039;s not like it couldn&#039;t be used for multiple ones, and I&#039;m probably not doing one right now).
k 
In other news, nice to see you writing again. I could also try to talk to you in-game, too, if you still play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Jaredh here, but I prefer my more real nick here.)</p>
<p>I just read that same article, via Boingboing, and yes, it creeped me out, too. Especially the video was pretty scary. </p>
<p>Now, I do feel for the poor rats, but if this cures Alzheimer I feel it&#8217;s worth it. Still creepy. Not that I find myself thinking if I chose the wrong career and if I could still change it&#8230;</p>
<p>I read an article about people trying to simulate a rat&#8217;s neocortex in a computer a while ago. I&#8217;ve lost the reference, but it got me thinking if we could use those simulations for some stuff &#8211; my first application idea was to use it to do signal separation from an audio signal, but I have no idea if that could be done. I should write an outline and try to use it as a basis for a PhD (if somebody wants to, go ahead &#8211; it&#8217;s not like it couldn&#8217;t be used for multiple ones, and I&#8217;m probably not doing one right now).<br />
k<br />
In other news, nice to see you writing again. I could also try to talk to you in-game, too, if you still play.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Kane</title>
		<link>http://blog.kriskane.com/2008/08/13/i-for-one-welcome-our-rat-brain-overlords/comment-page-1/#comment-9707</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Kane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can grab podcasts with a lot of different tools (including my phone, which freaks me out a little, like rat brain robots). I&#039;ll check it out, thanks for the recommendation.

edit: I decided to start at the beginning with Radiolab, and their very first show ever is basically about the same issues I wrote about in this post. Eerie. Good call, L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can grab podcasts with a lot of different tools (including my phone, which freaks me out a little, like rat brain robots). I&#8217;ll check it out, thanks for the recommendation.</p>
<p>edit: I decided to start at the beginning with Radiolab, and their very first show ever is basically about the same issues I wrote about in this post. Eerie. Good call, L.</p>
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		<title>By: lmrush</title>
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		<dc:creator>lmrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time I see you remind me to tell you about a radio show I think you should listen to... it&#039;s called Radiolab.  Some of the stuff you talk about here reminded me of a couple of different shows they&#039;ve done.  You&#039;d like it -- it&#039;s available on itunes as a podcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time I see you remind me to tell you about a radio show I think you should listen to&#8230; it&#8217;s called Radiolab.  Some of the stuff you talk about here reminded me of a couple of different shows they&#8217;ve done.  You&#8217;d like it &#8212; it&#8217;s available on itunes as a podcast.</p>
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